contrast this tone with what we saw four years ago when barack obama was inaugurated the first time, the first time and there was a great swelling, i think, of hope that he would be able to break the party san gridlock, a new kind of politics. there are issues including the debt ceiling and gun control. immigration san issue which there may well be a political consensus but hard to see the two sides coming together in a significantly new, bipartisan way, amongst the other issues. >> on the debt, on gun, immigration is in the interest of the republican party to get off the table. >> before this candidate -- the last candidate for president, the last two canned the das for president on the republican side, george bush and john mccain for comprehensive immigration reform. enormous support for republicans in my state for immigration reform and something essential to the economy as well as important to so many other people in our country. i'm more optimistic about that thanking than anythin than anything. >> you guys are a happy pair today. >> susan made a key point. not just the presiden